Pompeo: US adversaries watching US ‘destroy’ its alliances amid Afghanistan exit

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THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND YET HE IGNORED THOSE WARNINGS. JOINING ME RIGHT NOW FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO. HE WORKED IN FEBRUARY 2020 HELPING PRESIDENT TRUMP NEGOTIATE A PEACE DEAL WITH THE TALIBAN TO WITHDRAW FROM AFGHANISTAN. MR. SECRETARY, PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

GIVE US YOUR REACTION IN TERMS OF THE PULLOUT. SECRETARY: MARIA, THANKS FOR HAVING ME, WE WERE DETERMINED TO GET THINGS OUT.

EVERYONE KNEW THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WANT TODAY GET MEN AND YOUNG WOMEN BACK HOME. WE ALWAYS KNEW THAT CONDITIONS HAD TO BE RIGHT TO ACHIEVE THAT. HAD TO HAVE THE ADMINISTRATION ON THE GROUND RIGHT TO DO THAT.

THIS ADMINISTRATION LEAVING EQUIPMENT AND CIVILIANS BEHIND. 15,000 TO 2500 AND KEPT THE ORDER THAT HAD BEEN THERE. WE DIDN’T HAVE THE CHAOS. ALL THE WHILE WE TOOK 12,500 SOLDIERS. WHEN WE GOT TO THAT POINT, WE WENT BACK AND LOOKED AT THE CONDITIONS.

WE WANTED TO GET THOSE LAST NUMBERS OUT BUT WE NEVER FOUND THE CONDITIONS RIGHT TO DO SO. SO WE CONTINUED TO POUND THE TALIBAN WHEN THEY VIOLATED THE AGREEMENT, WHEN THEY MOVED ON CHECKPOINT OR MOVED IN A PLACE THAT THEY WEREN’T PERMITTED. WE USED AMERICAN POWER AND MADE CLEAR TO THE TALIBAN THAT THERE WOULD BE REAL CONSEQUENCES. WHAT HAPPENED HERE, MARIA, IS YOU HAD A LEADER WHO WAS UNPREPARED TO DO THAT. WHEN THE TALIBAN PUSHED ON THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, WE PUSHED BACK EVEN HARDER AND IMPOSED REAL COST AND WHEN THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PUSHED, THEY WITHDREW TO COMMERCIAL AIRPORT THAT IN NO WAY HAS CAPACITY TO GET OUR PEOPLE OUT WITH SPEED THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO KEEP THEM SAFE.

THIS IS AN INCOMPETENT METHOD OF GETTING OUR FOLKS OUT AND PRESENTS REAL RISK. I PRAY THAT WE GET THEM ALL HOME BUT I’M WATCHING TODAY EVEN NOW THEY HAVEN’T YET ORGANIZED IN A WAY TO PUSH THE AMERICAN POWER OUT IN A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN GET AMERICANS OUT OF THE COUNTRY. MARIA: AND THINGS ARE GETTING DANGEROUS AND MORE SEVERE BY THE MINUTE THIS MORNING THE WASHINGTON POST IS REPORTING THAT THOSE PEOPLE GOING TO THE AIRPORT ARE GETTING BEATEN UP AND THERE WERE 7 AFGHAN CIVILIANS KILLED OUTSIDE THE KABUL AIRPORT AS BIDEN SET TO UPDATE ON EVACUATIONS LATER TODAY. MR. SECRETARY, DOES JOE BIDEN UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE HERE.

I DON’T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD CLOSE THE BAGRAM AIR BASE BEFORE GETTING ALL OF YOUR CIVILIANS OUT? SECRETARY: WELL, GIVEN WHAT HE’S TOLD AMERICA AND WHAT WE CAN SEE HAPPENING ON THE GROUND AND THE MASSIVE DISCONNECT BETWEEN THE TWO, IT DOESN’T APPEAR TO THE — PERHAPS LESS, HE’S JUST NOT THAT INTERESTED.

HE’S MORE FOCUSED ON SPENDING 3 AND A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS AND CREATING DIVERSITY INSIDE THE MILITARY. IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN HOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES CAN GO ON TV AND TELL PEOPLE THAT NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE ABLE TO TRAVEL SAFELY TO THE AIRPORT WHEN WE CAN CLEAR SEE THAT THAT’S NOT THE CASE, BUT HE TOLD THE WORLD THAT OUR ALLIES WEREN’T CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE WERE DOING. AND YOU NEED TO ONLY GO TO BRITISH PARLIAMENT OR LISTEN TO MACRON AND MERKEL AND CAN’T NO LONGER TRUST AMERICA AS ALLY.

THEY CAN ALL SEE WITH THEIR OWN EYES TO BE TRUE. THIS IS DANGEROUS. WE ARE A FEW MONTHS INTO THE ADMINISTRATION AND AMERICAN LEADERSHIP HAS ALREADY WALKED OFF THE STAGE.

YOU KNOW, MARIA, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT PRESIDENT BIDEN TALKS THAT AMERICA IS BACK. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE BACK, IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE BACK TO BARACK OBAMA, AMERICA APOLOGIZING, AMERICAN WEAKNESS AND OUR ADVERSARIES NOT FEARING US AND FRIENDS NOT TRUSTING US.

MARIA: WE HAVE TO POINT OUT THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE ON BIDEN’S TEAM WHETHER IT’D BE NATIONAL SECURITY OR IN THE STATE DEPARTMENT WERE, IN FACT, IN THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE. HOW CAPABLE ARE HIS DEFENSE AND FOREIGN POLICY TEAMS IN YOUR VIEW INCLUDING YOUR SUCCESSOR TONY BLINKEN? WE KNOW THAT THERE WAS A MEMO EMERGED REVEALED THIS PAST WEEK INDICATING THAT JOE BIDEN WAS WARNED THAT THIS WOULD HAPPEN THIS WAY AND HE IGNORED THE WARNINGS.

SECRETARY: MARIA, THERE’S NO DOUBT IT’S THE SAME THING THAT WAS THERE FOR 8 YEARS LARGELY. THEY’VE ALL MOVED UP ONE SLOT OR TWO SLOTS BUT IT’S LARGELY THE SAME CAST AND CHARACTERRERS WITH THE WORLD VIEW AND THAT WORLD VIEW THAT SAYS AMERICA IS THE SET AND IMPORTANT DETAILS.

CLOSING BAGRAM, MAJOR AIR FLOW HUB FOR AMERICAN FORCES AND AMERICAN EQUIPMENT IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTRY AND PULLING OUT THE MILITARY BEFORE THE CIVILIANS GOT OUT AND NOT WORKING WITH FRIENDS AND PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THIS WAS COORDINATED AND MOST IMPORTANTLY NOT VALIDATING THAT THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND WERE SUFFICIENT TO ACTUALLY EXECUTE THIS STAGE OF THE WITHDRAWAL.

THOSE ARE DEMONSTRABLY GEOPOLITICAL ERRORS. THEY HAVE NOT MOVE TODAY FIX THEM. IT’S NOT ONLY IMPORTANT FOR AMERICANS AND CIVILIANS AND VLADIMIR PUTIN AND CHAIRMAN KIM STARE AND THIS PRESENTS ENORMOUS RISK TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HERE AT HOME. MARIA: EXACTLY.

AND THE MIXED MESSAGES HAVE BEEN INCREDIBLY DANGEROUS. LAST WEEK PRESIDENT BIDEN TOLD THE AMERICANS IN AFGHANISTAN TO GET TO THE AIRPORT SO THAT THE U.S. CAN GET THEM HOME AND THEN THIS WEEKEND WE WERE TOLD DON’T GO TO THE AIRPORT. IT’S TOO DANGEROUS.

THEY ARE TERRORISTS RIGHT OUTSIDE THE AIRPORT. THE GATES ARE LOCKED. THEY ARE CONFISCATING PASSPORTS. WHAT’S GOING ON? SHOULD AMERICANS GO TO THE AIRPORT OR NOT GO TO THE AIRPORT?

>> I MUST SAY, I DON’T HAVE ACCURATE SITUATION OR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT’S ON THE GROUND ALTHOUGH I HEARD FROM SOME FOLKS IN THE REGION. IT CERTAINLY SOUNDS LIKE PASSAGE TO THE AIRPORT IS VERY DANGEROUS.

AMERICA NEEDS TO WORK TO SECURE THAT, TO REDUCE THE RISK. THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO DO THAT. HOW ABOUT THIS FOR STARTING POINT, MAKE CLEAR THAT YOU’RE NOT GOING TO BEG OR IMPLORE OR YOU’RE NOT GOING TO PLEA OR PAY THE TALIBAN IF AMERICANS ARE HARMED.

YOU WILL GO AND CRUSH THEM. YOU WILL PUT REAL COSTS ON THEM. THIS IS THE MODEL THAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAD ADOPTED AND EACH TIME WE DID THAT, EACH TIME WE DID THAT, WE GOT A TACTICAL RESPONSE FROM THE TALIBAN THAT RESPECTED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT THERE WERE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO DO, MOST IMPORTANTLY HARMING AMERICANS. REMEMBER THIS, MARIA FROM THE TIME WE BEGAN PEACE AND RECONCILIATION AND CONVERSATIONS, FROM THE TIME WE SIGNED THE DEAL IN FEBRUARY 2020, NOT A SINGLE AMERICAN WAS ATTACKED BY THE TALIBAN IN A SERIOUS WAY AND THERE WASN’T A SINGLE AMERICAN KILLED. THAT WASN’T BECAUSE THE DOCUMENT, WE WERE GOING TO GO TO COURT TO ENFORCE THE DOCUMENT, IT WAS BECAUSE WE DEMONSTRATED AMERICAN RESOLVE AND POWER AND WHEN YOU DON’T DO THAT, THIS IS THE KIND — THE CHAOS THAT YOU SEE IN AFGHANISTAN IS PRECISELY WHAT ENSUED WHAT AMERICA FAILS TO LEAD.

MARIA: SO THEY’VE ALREADY BROKEN WHATEVER AGREEMENT WAS MADE IN DOJA. SECRETARY: OF COURSE. MARIA: I’M TALKING ABOUT THE TALIBAN. WAS THIS A COUP? SECRETARY: YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE FOLKS IN AFGHANISTAN, RIGHT, PRESIDENT GHANI WAS CORRUPT HIMSELF.

THE LEADERS IN THE OTHER REGION. WE DIDN’T JUST SIGN AGREEMENT WITH THE TALIBAN, ONE WITH THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT TOO. WE WERE TALKING TO FOLKS IN THE NORTH AND THE WEST, THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN IN A MESS FOR A LONG TIME. ELECTIONS HAVE BEEN FRAUGHT AND POLITICALLY UNCERTAINTY FOR AWFULLY LONG TIME. OUR MISSION SET WAS CLEAR, MARIA, OUR MISSION SET WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN HOME AND MAKE SURE WE WERE NEVER ATRACKED THIS PLACE AGAIN AND WE WORKED DILIGENT AS WE SAW THE CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND THAT WE WITHDREW IN A WAY THAT PROVIDED MAXIMUM CERTAINTY THAT WE WOULD NEVER BE ATTACKED FROM THIS PLACE.

CHAOS THAT YOU’RE SEEING, MARIA, THIS DRASTICALLY INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SOME DAY, SOME UNGOVERNED SPACE IN AFGHANISTAN WILL LEAD TO AN ATTACK MAYBE NOT ON AMERICA BUT AMERICA INTEREST SOMEWHERE AROUND THE WORLD. MARIA: THEY HAVE THE WEAPONRY NOW TO DO IT. MR. SECRETARY — >> SECRETARY: THEY SURE DO. MARIA: I WANT TO GET BACK AND COME BACK ON SOMETHING THAT YOU TOUCHED ON AND THAT’S THE LONGER-TERM CONSEQUENCES OF ALL OF THIS AND THEN WHAT ACTIONS THE U.

S. MILITARY NEEDS TO TAKE NOW TO PREVENT THE TALIBAN FROM DRIVING AFGHANISTAN FURTHER INTO A TERRORISM MARIA: WELCOME BACK. WE ARE BACK WITH FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO, ALSO A FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR. LET ME POINT OUT THAT WE ARE ALSO FOLLOWING THE LATEST ON TROPICAL STORM HENRI. YOU CAN LOOK ON THE SIDE OF THE SCREEN TO GET THE VERY LATEST, WE WILL BE DOING THAT ALL DAY.

MR. SECRETARY, I’VE GOT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THE CONSEQUENCES OF THIS CUT AND RUN PULLOUT OF AFGHANISTAN. THE HISTORIAN BERNARD LEWIS WORRIED THAT THE GREATEST DANGER TO GLOBAL STABILITY IS WHEN AMERICA COMES TO BE SEEN AS HARMLESS AS AN ENEMY AND TREACHEROUS AS A FRIEND. THIS IS SOMETHING LARRY LINDSEY POSTED LAST WEEK AND I WANT TO BRING UP THIS GLOBAL TIMES TREAT. THIS, OF COURSE, THE GLOBAL TIMES IS THE INTERNATIONAL MOUTHPIECE FOR THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY AND AS SOON AS WE SAW THE CUT AND RUN OUT OF AFGHANISTAN, THE EDITOR-IN-CHIEF OF GLOBAL TIMES TREATS THIS.

AFTER THE FALL OF THE KABUL REGIME, THE TAIWAN AUTHORITIES MUST BE TREMBLING. DON’T LOOK FORWARD FOR U.S. TO PROTECT THEM, TAPIA NEED TO ORDER WHEN THEY SURRENDER TO LIBERATION ARMY. SECRETARY: WELL, MARIA, THE GLOBAL TIMES IS PROPAGANDA MOUTHPIECE FOR THE COMMUNIST PARTY.

THAT’S JUST THEM POKING FUN AT A WEAK ADMINISTRATION IN AMERICA. BUT HERE IS THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THIS DEBACLE WILL CERTAIN HARM WITH AMERICAN AND ALLIES. YOU HAVE SEEN SOME OF IT PUBLICLY BUT TALK PRIVATELY CAN THIS PRESIDENT AND AMERICAN LEADERSHIP TEAM CAN ACTUALLY DELIVER. AND SO MY WISDOM WOULD BE THIS, SO THIS IS AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF CREDIBILITY TO THE UNITED STATES. YOU CAN BEGIN TO DEMONSTRATE TO THE WORLD THAT WE ARE NOT HARMLESS, INDEED, WE ARE POWERFUL.

HOW ABOUT THIS? WALK AWAY FROM NEGOTIATIONS IN VIENA. WE ARE DONE, WE ARE OUT. HOW ABOUT THIS, HELP THE TAIWANESE CLOSE ON SOME TRADE AND TRADE DEALS WITH THEM AND START DELIVERING THOSE WEAPON SYSTEMS AND EMIRATES, MOVE THAT FORWARD AND DEMONSTRATE THAT WE WILL BE GOOD PARTNERS TO EMIRATES.

IF YOU’RE PRESIDENT SALINSKY IN UKRAINE, WORK CLOSER WITH UKRAINES FROM PREVENTING VLADIMIR PUTIN TO TAKE ANOTHER CHUNK OF UKRAINE.

HOW ABOUT ANNOUNCING TODAY THAT WE WILL NOT SHOW UP IN BEIJING FOR THE OLYMPICS AND TAKE THEM, THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WORLD LEADERS ARE LOOKING FOR. THEY ARE LACK TO GO SHOW AMERICAN RESOLVE AND STRENGTH. I HOPE THAT THE BIDEN TEAM HAS IT WITHIN THEM TO DELIVER ON THE KINDS OF CLEAR ACTIONS, NOT JUST WORDS BUT ACTIONS THAT WILL CONVINCE LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD THAT WE REMAIN A STRONG FORCE AND STRONG PARTNER AND THAT WILL TELL OUR ADVERSARIES A LOT TOO.

IT WILL TELL THEM THAT IT WILL NOT CHALLENGE THE UNITED STATES. MARIA: WHY AREN’T WE DOING WHAT THE FRENCH ARE DOING GETTING THE FRENCH OUT?

SECRETARY: IT’S BEEN A LONG WEEK, THAT IS NONSENSE. I’M A VETERAN. I KNOW THE CAPABILITIES OF OUR YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN. WE CAN DELIVER JUST THE SAME WAY THE FRENCH AND THE UNITED KINGDOM ARE DELIVERING FOR THEIR PEOPLE. TO SAY THAT WE DON’T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DO THAT, FIRST OF ALL, IT’S UNTRUE.

WHAT THEY HAVE NOT DEMONSTRATED IS THE WILLING L TO DO THIS. I HOPE THAT THEY WILL FIND THAT STEEL, THE RESOLVE. I PRAY THAT WE GET ALL AMERICANS HOME, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION, SOLEMN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ABLE TO DO SO. MARIA: SECRETARY POMPEO, BEFORE YOU GO, A QUESTION NONE OF US WANT TO ASK BUT I MUST, IS JOE BIDEN MENTALLY CAPABLE TO BE IN THIS ROLE AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME? SECRETARY: I WILL TELL YOU, IT’S BEEN A TOUGH WEEK TO WATCH THE PRESIDENT BEING DISCONNECTED FROM THE REALITY THAT WE CAN ALL SEE.

I PRAY THAT THEY GET THIS RIGHT. I HOPE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IS UP TO THE TASK. TODAY HE’S DEMONSTRATED THAT IN AFGHANISTAN HE’S FAILED. THE INCOMPETENCE OF THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN TRAGIC, WILL HAVE LONG-LASTING IMPLICATIONS. I HOPE THEY ARE ABLE TO RIDE THE SHIP AND GET THIS RIGHT.

I KNOW THAT EVERY AMERICAN WISHES THAT FOR OUR OWN COUNTRY. MARIA: OF COURSE, AND WE ARE ALL.

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