Trudeau said he harbours “no hard feelings” against Singh, despite being “disappointed” with how he handled the situation.
The prime minister said he believes “politics sort of kicked in,” placing Singh under pressure from his caucus and his voting base to cut ties with the Liberals in a bid to secure the Sept. 16 Winnipeg byelection in Elmwood-Transcona, a longtime NDP stronghold. A byelection in Quebec on the same day also saw an NDP candidate in a three-way race to secure the LaSalle-Émard-Verdun seat which had long been held by the Liberals.
The NDP won its seat in the Winnipeg byelection but failed to do so in Quebec. The Bloc Québécois was victorious in LaSalle-Émard-Verdun, taking over a seat held by the Liberals for the majority of the past century.
It was not the first byelection loss for the Liberals this year. The party also lost in Toronto-St. Paul’s, another Liberal stronghold. Conservative candidate Don Stewart won by a narrow margin, taking the seat that had been held by the Liberals for more than 30 years.
Trudeau discussed his regrets about the losses with Erskine-Smith, an MP known for voting against his own government.
Trudeau said the party didn’t give the candidates in the Montreal and Toronto byelections “enough time on the ground.”
Trudeau on Poilievre
Trudeau and Erskine-Smith discussed several topics during the nearly hour-long interview. The one name that consistently popped up throughout the conversation was that of Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre.
Erskine-Smith asked the prime minister why he wasn’t “taking the fight to” Poilievre, saying he felt Trudeau had been too lenient and given Poilievre a “free pass” on some issues since he was elected Tory leader in 2022.
Trudeau said former Tory Prime Minister Stephen Harper tried that tactic when Trudeau became Liberal leader in 2013 and that it didn’t work because “Canadians sort of had an idea of” who Trudeau was.
“Canadians don’t have much of an idea of who Poilievre [is]. He’s been in the House for 20 years, nobody knows who he is,” Trudeau said, adding that while he had the “opportunity” to launch an attack, he ultimately decided against it.
The Poilievre-led Tories hold 43 percent of the current vote share, according to a recent poll, giving them a 22-point lead over the Liberals’ 21 percent vote share, and making it likely the Conservatives would win a majority government if an election were held today.
Trudeau said he is aware that he has been criticized for his choices, both by Liberal supporters and by members of his own party. He told Erskine-Smith he’s not worried about those in his caucus who may be doubting him.
“There’s a question on whether or not I still have the drive, or the fight, or the ability to win this fight. That’s obviously a question that I have to ask as well,“ he said. ”Do I still have the drive to do this? And the answer is … absolutely, better than just about anyone else, because I have been fighting through crises and fighting against Conservative opponents.”